Good morning. We, and professional traders too, earn the money on days like that – carnage would sum it up quite well, as the prices just scream all over the place. It was such a big fall on the FTSE that even a 100 point bounce in the evening looked little more than a small bump on the chart. I had hoped that it was going to perfectly hit the Raff channel I emailed round last night at 6140 but instead bounced from just above at 6150. The way the S&P lead the charge definitely looked like the Plunge Protection Team (PPT) stepped up the plate. We are just above the Bianca channels for the moment, at 6211 and 6186, so we may see a little bit of a relief rally before more downside.
Asia Overnight from Bloomberg
Asian stocks slid toward a six-month low and average bond yields for the biggest developed economies fell to a record on concern that Europe’s economic woes may scupper the global recovery. Crude oil extended declines as South Korea’s won led emerging-market currencies higher.
The MSCI Asia Pacific Index sank 0.9 percent by 12:49 p.m. in Tokyo, as most major Asian benchmark gauges retreated.Japan’s Topix index dropped 2 percent. Standard & Poor’s 500 Index futuresadded 0.3 percent after the U.S. gauge fell to a six-month low. The won gained 0.3 percent. Japan’s 10-year bond yield dropped and Treasuries rose an eighth day as investors pushed out the estimate for when the Federal Reserve will raise rates. Oil in New York fell 1.3 percent to $80.75.
Euro-area inflation data is due today after the region’s stocks tumbled, Greek bonds plunged and Germany cut its growth forecast, stirring memories of the bloc’s sovereign-debt crisis. Asian bond risk surged. A bigger-than-projected drop in U.S. retail sales ignited concern over the impact of the global slowdown on the world’s biggest economy.
“There’s been a significant correction in U.S. equities and that’s shaken investor confidence,” Toby Lawson, head of futures, options and cash equities trading for Asia-Pacific at Newedge Group SA in Sydney, said by phone. “Geopolitical risks and the spread of Ebola are adding to global economic uncertainties. When the market is a state of flux, everything gets amplified.”
The S&P 500 ended last session down 0.8 percent, paring a drop of as much as 3 percent that briefly wiped out its gain for the year. Europe’s benchmark stock gauge plunged 3.2 percent, its biggest retreat in almost three years, and finished the day 11 percent below a June high, meeting the common definition of a correction.
Asia Stocks
The Asia-Pacific gauge is heading for its lowest close since March 25, and is down more than 9 percent from a July 29 high. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index fell 0.2 percent today.
All 33 industry groups on the Topix dropped today. The broadest measure of Japanese equities is 11 percent below its recent peak. The Nikkei 225 Stock Average slid 1.9 percent today as a gauge of options prices on the measure surged 14 percent to the highest since March.
Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index dropped 0.5 percent and a gauge of Chinese shares in the city pared its loss to 0.1 percent. The Shanghai Composite Index climbed 0.6 percent and the CSI 300 Index also added 0.6 percent, buoyed by a surge in healthcare stocks amid heightened concern about the spread of the Ebola virus.
Treasury Surge
The average 10-year yield across the U.S., Germany and Japan fell to 1.1 percent, the lowest on record and down from 1.9 percent at the end of 2013.
The rate on Treasuries (USGG10YR) due in a decade fell four basis points to 2.10 percent today and Japanese 10-year bond yields fell to 0.475 percent. That’s the lowest since April last year, when the Bank of Japan unleashed an unprecedented prgram of monetary stimulus.
A measure of Treasury volatility jumped the most since September 2008 yesterday. Bank of America Merrill Lynch’s MOVE Index, which measures price swings based on options, climbed 26.64 basis points to 101.28 basis points.
Trading volume in U.S. Treasuries surged to the highest on record as investors dropped wagers that the Federal Reserve Will raise interest rates. More than $945 billion in U.S. government debt changed hands, according to ICAP Plc, the World’s largest interdealer broker. That surpassed the $662.2 billion traded on May 22, 2013, when former Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke mentioned the possibility of slowing bond purchases.
WTI, Brent
The yield on China’s sovereign bonds due September 2024 fell five basis points to 3.9 percent as of 10:46 a.m. in Shanghai, prices from the National Interbank Funding Center show. The benchmark 10-year yield dropped yesterday to the lowest level since August 2013, according to ChinaBond data.
Aggregate financing totaled 1.05 trillion yuan ($171 billion) last month, hitting a three-month high while missing the median estimate of 1.15 trillion yuan in a Bloomberg News survey, according to data released today by the People’s Bank of China.
West Texas Intermediate oil declined after ending last session down 0.1 percent at $81.78, its lowest settlement since June 2012.
Brent for November settlement, which expires today, declined as much as 71 cents, or 0.9 percent, to $83.07 a barrel on the London-based ICE Futures Europe exchange. The more-active December contract was down 70 cents at $83.42.
Bank of America Corp. and BNP Paribas SA predict prices will hold above $80 a barrel. Commerzbank AG also sees that level as a possible low for Brent crude. They’re in part counting on OPEC cutting output — some say as soon as next month — to compensate for recent declines in demand.
FTSE Outlook

What a day, haven’t seen just declines on the FTSE for a long time. Certainly a lot of fear out there over global economies, especially following poor US data; but that said company earnings that are coming through this week are not too bad. Todays pivot is 6276 so whilst I think we might see that today I do think we are about to get another leg down before a decent bounce. Looking at the S&P, down to 1835 maybe, then bounce to 1900? Ebola is still hovering as an issue too, with a rumour going round yesterday afternoon that Barcelona airport was in lock down after several symptomatic passengers arrived. Jitters all round then. Anyway, for today I think we might have a little continuation of that bounce from last night, a bit of consolidation then more downside, maybe tomorrow. There are quite a few resistance levels mention int he headline at the top of the email – thats the problem when it s bait chaotic, it puts the levels a bit all over the place. So, after an initial rise to the pivot, a possible dip from there (6288 is also resistance so this whole area). If it retests that area then we might get a rise to 6305, where we have the top of the 30 minute channel, and a good spot to go short again. If the bears really start, helped by the US then we could get further declines off that to the bottom of that channel around 6060, which might well tally with the S&P hitting 1837 where there is support.
Do you actually want to say that you earned money on this fall, Nick?
Long 6229 target 6296
Mailed tick chart…
If anyone else would like a copy of this – just email me at statsuk@aol.com
bit ambitious target, brave if you will hold out for that in this market..
Dutch
I feel the same. There is no way this market is goining to get there.
But as all the trading guru’s say – “” if you have a system – that has a good track record, then to discount it because it is not working once or twice – goes against good trading “” Good trading is all about consistency. Repeat the same thing every day.
But am I talking Bull**** ! I dont’ know really.
Well that confirms it – I was talking Bull****
applying systems as the only thing an an irrational market and indeed world is pretty much madness and if not for occasional luck a sure way to loose your shirt in the end. That’s me talking bull**** of course :-). By the way you best get out of that trade I recon.
Already out – B/E
Hugh try out ? Your images do not upload
Did you read my posts and my question?
Can you answer that question ?
It’s a simple question
Thanks
Yes PMS – I did reply with some images but it said that it was waiting to be moderated.
On the detailed report – there are 3 tabs – one of which says closed positions.
This will list all the trades that the summary report is covering.
Let me know how you get on and I can do something this evening..
Ok, thanks…but that is not what I’m asking. Not at all.
\You did not understand my question. Thanks anyway
Jim
when you say :
At the moment I’m using the 5 min. timeframe and a run of data from Monday morning.
You place the start date at Oct.13 and data frequency from 3 days or data frequency randomly (100 bars/10000 bars )?
Jim, Hugh
I placed a Probacktest
start date Oct.1 – 8:00am
and end date real time
And data frequency 10000 bars
What will probactest reads ? The data for only the period starting Oct.1 or crossing with data for the 10000 bars ?
😀 no tweets, market sleeping, after the 10:00 good economic data out of Europe
Now falling…that’s a surprise for me.
Loving this market! 4 trades already completed this morning 127 points up! Broken 300 points this week :).
What spreads are you using – knowing you do let’s say 6180 -6245.
Volatility has increased – has that had any bearing on your spreads ?
Started trading early and went short @45 @60 @75 (never trade with stops just trades) then went long @45 @30 @10. Went short again on the way back down to 10 @35 and just closed that @00.
So long again now @85 – didn’t like how that got hit so quickly but at the same time don’t mind going long again too much. So next price is 65-15.
Defensive price would be 6150-6200
Confident price 6170-6220
So 65 hit… 6135-6185
so long 6135 and close at 6185 or short 6185 and close at 6135?
Yes Sam, I just asking him. changing from one side to the other, does not seem have any result on many of his trades
I have this system of trade in Probacktest but in a longer time frame and the reverse usually has some profit, but never the same as if I would exit in dips or tops. The Probacktest only stays in the market all the time and I can choose to exit in top of EC, where the profits are huge.
Put Stops in at 6155 to close Short…
Stops just a tad Below 6150
Filled
Back Short Again 6145
Wondering if 6111 is the next level – just on fib projection
hmm us SPX futures testing 35 level, will it hold? I don’t think so..
I cannot trade calmly today. Even though I had a sleeping drops I didn’t get much sleep. I didn’t worry about it but my subconscious did. It brought flashes of trading day into my mind. So pity I cannot get hold of those moves today. I think I got scared a bit yesterday.
Jack, better take rest..
I need one, hindsight is good but I need a fresh air.
How did you do yesterday?
What surprising to me still is that my account lowered at max point (I just calculated) to -2118 pounds (£6pp) but I only had 2136 pounds in my account (maybe 2158, not sure if it was before dividend was added or not). How did they allow that? I couldn’t close the trade as I wasn’t there. But it did save me, however I’m thinking, would it go overdraft if it continued falling. Doubt it, it’s not a bank.
Going out now, catch up later.
again fall.. 170 pts from high, worse than yesterday 😮
hmm, crash
6090 Fib
6045 Fib ????
Think it;s got to be 6045 6090 already gone
they really after my account……..down by 6K.
Sam is that your equity portfolio ??
yup
if snp fails 35, where will ftse be?
not sure why you long after all that. if you want to be long better stay on sideways
am not opening new longs, just holding ones opened few days/weeks ago
I’m long of 4 Jack…
Left with 3 sorry – last long was 80 which close @10
Tick Chart change of colour (up) 6090 6100 approx
its going to break that soon.
Market in panic! Expect a rally.
For the time being 6075 Low
S2 Pivot Point is 6082
S3 Pivot Point 5953
Quiet for a while …….possibly
Thanks Hugh. Think we seen the lows now. US will focus on earnings and forget about Ebola for a bit.
Dutch – Send me your email address – I’m doing alot on email
statsuk@aol.com
emailed you just now. got to dash
True, Ebola has been shunned and is old news now. Think bears might need a break now 🙂
it will only be a coffee break I fear!
Long FTSE 6091 and keeping that whatever happens (lol!) picked up soo many points scrapping today, I’m totally knackered and have a day job to do. So will let this ride out and check back in the evening. GL all, keep it low stake and scrape!
Lol – know what you mean – I’ve got a ton to do as well & wish things would just stop kickin up ..!
if 6050 goes 5900 here we come
Long @ 75
lol… booked @ 95 panicc 🙁
Just gone Short 6071.81 on that poke lower …..
short the lows :O ?
I know !
you are the master. what is the stop? I am thinking to go long for the day
It’s OK Senu – maybe a mistake – I was just following trade disciplines. I was Long – and put a stop just below Support (Short Trade) …hence, why I picked a Short up there …!!
Industrial Production m/m
forecast 0.4% -0.1%
that could lift markets at the open
but then
Philly Fed Manufacturing Index
forecast 19.9 22.5
could set a new low
US Bears will take baton from EU Bears this afternoon and carry on 🙂
FTSE is too fast for my kind of trader 🙂 I will loose all my hair if I trade in this pace 🙁
Jim
when you say :
At the moment I’m using the 5 min. timeframe and a run of data from Monday morning.
You place the start date at Oct.13 and data frequency from 3 days or data frequency randomly (100 bars/10000 bars )?
Jim, Hugh
I placed a Probacktest
start date Oct.1 – 8:00am
and end date real time
And data frequency 10000 bars
What will probactest reads ? The data for only the period starting Oct.1 or crossing with data for the 10000 bars ?
Any buy signal here?
Ref
Hugh says:
October 16, 2014 at 12:37 pm
My Short at 6070.
It’s OK Senu – maybe a mistake – I was just following trade disciplines. I was Long – and put a stop just below Support (Short Trade) …hence, why I picked a Short up there …!!
Reply
I had the same reaction when you shorted @ 6145, that was so good.
Your 6111 is still resisting.
Yes I know what you mean about that 6145 entry – I looked up and it had moved so quickly away to 6130 – 6120 ..
I’ve got 6118/19 as the resistance…at the moment
I was thinking last night that these markets are quite severe at the moment as they’re not really providing the opportunity to square up …not yet anyhow !
I am waiting for them to calm down
Hugh, where do u see the next resistance above 6111
Draw a Fib down but instead of using the base as 0% – use it as 50% .
That way you get a projection.
Hope I explained that well enough.
(I can’t remember the level I used)
Fib Levels
FTSE Hi 6582 down to Low 6070
Retracements
23.6% = 6120
38 = 6151
50 = 6176
61= 6201
Thanks mate.
Do not care anymore with my fears. The system is doing well on DOW and SPX.
I will place a short order on DOW, next time a see a sell signal after a buy signal.
Long entry at 6109
Stop 6096
Target -1 6167 T-2 = 6190
software signal?
Sam – Yes
But remember it is going against the trend.
My suggestion – if you take it – bring your stop to breakeven ASAP
The last small bounce gave a last buy at 16446 and sell at 16366 had a lost of 90+- points more or less (with worse spread), but the system is in profit and the variables stay the same.
FTSE do not care with it, its a bad instrument for now.
And since October 1 this last signals had loss in all (FTSE, SPX and DOW).
DAX did not have any signal. Still in Sell mode
But FTSE recalc the variables which was not a good thing to do.
lol… again drilling back
FTSE 5 Min Chart
RSI TREND BROKEN
30 MA Crossed
MACD HIST RED
MACD Looking as if it’s going to x.
ADX Approaching 20 – if it goes up we are heading Up or Dwn.
My ticker chart is RED.
Think this is just a returned to “comfortable levels” .
Can we really move higher without touching 6000 – I wonder ??
will go long and short just in case 😉
Long entry at 6109
Stop 6096
Target -1 6167 Target -2 = 6190
Hi RC – is that a repeat order ??
Hugh
Yes
2nd try . 1st – hit my Stop
But System is holding on to what it is saying.
I know it is not broken – Just the fast market momentum
is messing up with the parameters – on those sudden moves.
i think US really want to touch & go 1800 this afternoon – just stop hunting and eat some accounts.
here we go. Now give me a buy signal and wait for that sell signal. Mid session today hope see it-
long snp@30.
hope shorters will keep your long moving 🙂 GL
God bless America…..com’on just click Buy.
Hugh
Software – Not Broken — Hurrayyyyyyyyyyyy.
Got to 1st target – 6167
Nice one RC
Thanks Nick.
Was a bit depressed – with missing the short.
With a little bit of throwing my keyboard, mouse at the monitor
i worked off my frustration.
I would anyday get the moves when market
is managable than get 2 – 3 days of catching these fast irratic moves.
So feeling better now.
How has your day been?
Things will start to calm down and can get back to technical trading so should be better.
Day has been pretty good thanks, shorted 6276 this morning at the pivot. I had a long order 6070 which missed by 0.5 though which was rather annoying!
Cool.
In Californian accent – “Nice !!”
In my normal accent – Ya ba daba doooooooooooooooo!!!!
RC i think you are right, your software couldn’t cope with rapid movements.
A lot of people couldn’t either!
Fib Levels
FTSE Hi 6582 down to Low 6070
Retracements
23.6% = 6120
38 = 6151
50 = 6176
61= 6201
Pleasing to eyes to some some greens among sea of blood red (positions) – not sure how long it will last though 🙂
sam, what is your position now?
Still in red, fluctuating between -5K and -4K.
Wow – went long @30 didn’t even have time to put any orders in which would have only been to close @60 ended up closing @90 in seconds! Went short of a few extra as well.
what happened 15 mins ago? gold moving up and volatile in indices?
Hugh
Target 2 Hit 6190
Though I came out at 6167
Feeling elated at the software. Still Unbroken.
Really chuffed !
That’s great .
Let’s see what happens around here 6190 – 6201 (61.8% retracement)
Nick
Yes the market still moves within technicals.
However erratic the nature of the move.
I suppose just have to have a real belief in it.
yup, belief and get a super computer 😉
When indices settle down, bears will toy with gold i reckon.
We are probably looking at 6229 – for this move higher
will FTSE close in green 🙂
Fed’s Bullard says the Fed should consider delay in ending of #QE…
looks like reversing here
Today is a great example of why not to trade with stops?
MLawrence01
Could you e-mail me your trades – Still scratching my head
Cheers
Will do asap. Struggling to keep up myself!
Looks like 6229 is where the ftse is going to
Well that shows how stupid I am.
Should shut my gob & listen to the machine.
Where did you get 6229 from RC …??
Hugh
Just trying to be clever.
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RentalCollection says:
October 16, 2014 at 9:32 am
Long 6229 target 6296
_________________________
Trying to extrapolate.
Preety poor job at doing it.
Software only gave this.
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RentalCollection says:
October 16, 2014 at 2:06 pm
Long entry at 6109
Stop 6096
Target -1 6167 Target -2 = 6190
Not much use.
Software gave 2 targets only
is it now short from 6170 then.. anytakers…
Hugh
Sent you a mail
Trying to see if I can incorporate it,
If i can atleast understand it.
RC Haven’t got yet !!
wow nice little rally, just closed my long, nearly 100 pointer!
Think though of shorting 6200 level, what we think?
Yes Dutch – you did well with that trade.
I’d watch the 30 SMA on the 5 Min ….
Hugh
Resent
RC
Maybe it will appear later ….
Buy signals on SPX and DOW at 18:00 pm from my system. Manual entries at better points.
Would had been at 16115 and 1862. With auto would had been at 16133 and 1864
Reversing from sell both. Using no stops as always
1082 – DOW
119 – SPX
No stops, only reverses from buy to sell and vice versa
Since Oct.1
Stick with same variables
Last reverse had a net profit of 19 points on SPX and 120 points on DOW from yesterday to today. Big swings in the autotrade it can handle.
Manual I could had sold in the dip or trail
I was blind, now I see. All those predictions from everyone are off my sight
No more risk… no more stress. That’s my goal.
If it reverses here, it will show in the chart again and signal will appeared.
So another big move coming, as is the best month to test it
@PMSInvestor do you only paper trade? Can’t make head nor tail out of your posts.
I’m using an autotest system with signals. Testing to see the performance
Senu,
How are u doing ? Did make any profit this weeks.
Haw u see the ftse?
PMS
How are u doing ? Did make any profit this weeks.
Haw u see the ftse?
Dutch,
How was your trade?
How you see ftse? Long or short
Morning All
MLawrence01
Could you post your trades as you take them.
Thanks
Much Appreciated.
Hugh
You ‘ve got mail!!