Good morning. I am not sure what that rise was all about to 6245 yesterday at the open but it certainly worked in our favour with the long from 6108. After that rise the FTSE spent the rest of the day being bearish, dipping just below 6000 as the US session closed, with the Dow posting -500 at the time. However, as all the headlines started to ping up about it the bounce started and 100 was added quite quickly, with another 200 added overnight. The FTSE now sits at 6080. There was an interesting call from Morgan Stanley last night too who bravely called the bottom around the current moment in time, read more here. Time will tell if that comes to pass or not. Things look quite positive for a bullish start, if the bulls can hold 6060 support.
US & Asia Overnight from Bloomberg
Asian stocks fell, following a decline in U.S. shares, as weak American manufacturing data added to concern about a slowdown in global economic growth.
The MSCI Asia Pacific Index dropped 0.7 percent to 125.97 as of 9:02 a.m. in Tokyo. Anemic demand from emerging markets including China translated into leaner factory order books in the U.S., data showed Tuesday.
Futures on the FTSE China A50 Index slid 1.5 percent in most recent trading in Singapore, with contracts on the Hang Seng Index declining 0.7 percent.
“You have worries about the global growth outlook led by Chinese concerns at a time when the Fed is thinking about raising interest rates, and that’s leaving investors very twitchy,” said Shane Oliver, a Sydney-based global strategist at AMP Capital Investors Ltd. in Sydney, which oversees about $114 billion. “I think we’ve seen the worst, but it’s an environment where volatility is likely to continue.”
Japan’s Topix index declined 1.7 percent. South Korea’s Kospi index retreated 1.5 percent and New Zealand’s NZX 50 Index lost 1.3 percent. Australia’s S&P/ASX 200 Index fell ahead of a report on the nation’s economic growth. Markets are yet to open in Hong Kong and China.
In addition to the U.S. manufacturing report, an official factory gauge in China dropped to a three-year low in August, while measures for the euro area signaled a divergence in the German and French economies. An index for Germany expanded more than forecast and a French measure showed contraction, according to Markit Economics. U.K. manufacturing growth cooled as export orders declined for a fifth month. [Bloomberg]
FTSE Outlook
6060 looks a decent support level initially, as we have a bullish set up on the 30min chart with support there. This is the first time the 30min has been bullish this week so it will certainly be interesting to see if that level holds. We have had a decent overnight bounce from the 5980 low despite a bearish Asia and more weak data – though the flip side is of course rates won’t be rising in that case, hence this rise. If the bears break the 6060 support area then I would expect a dip back to 6000 area, and maybe lower they really start getting some momentum. The bottom of the daily channels are still quite far below at 5800 for the 10 day Raff and 5766 for the 20 day Bianca. Generally today I feel fairly positive, as long as that initial support holds.
Morning, good call with the 60/70 support and 09 resistance Nick.
Looks like we’re testing the support again now.
I’m quite short at 6100+ this morning, can’t understand why we are this high overnight, the MS Effect?, and will cover a little around here 65 but looking for a down day myself.
Thanks tmfp.
Played out nicely so far, managed to get the short on at 6108 as well.
Feeling a bit overdone in the 40’s so covered more and looking for any decent bounce to reshort.
Maybe DAX will see a bit of buying around 10000.
Morning –
Trading these PRT Lines again –
So far pretty good this morning.
Had the initial move higher from 6070 – 6107
Then S 6107 to 6067.
Now S again Stop 6067 Tgt 5938 (Minor).
The way I’m assuming these work is that you trade in the direction of the colour of the line – red/green. Generally opening a trade at the close of the bar above or beneath.
Oh er RSI Trio looks like it may kick in soon
Just posting this as these lines change.
First thing this morning there was a Support Line at 6035 which has now disappeared.
http://tc.md.it-finance.com/ProRealTime/display_chartimage.phtml?name=6zvynyfnfmrj8ruu6a8l43v7g&type=png&purpose=file
Tmfp, that was the abc correction for 5 waves down.
I am now short with targets over 1000 points south
Morning All – Any ideas on time frames icarus on this wave down ?
We are in leg C of a massive correction
Fair enough icarus, I take it you’re not a Morgan Stanley fan then? 🙂
Missed the 31% dead cat to 6060 🙁
Anyone got any thoughts on the effect of the Chinese holiday?
Hugh, look at the hourly for waves, we completed abc retrace for w1-5. of the first leg down Short on touch of 13 ema on 5 min.
Ofcourse not tmfp:-)
By the way is Morgan ans Stanley making calls for downside by any chance?why did you refer to them tmfp
No, Morgan Stanley have called the bottom to this decline with the use of their patented YieldSwingometer, or some such tool of the devil.
Apparently equities have to rise because bonds are expensive. Too complicated for me.
They are probably stuck with a load of longs from 6500
There’s so much mud flying around at the moment I don’t think we’ll know what sticks until it’s stuck.
Dates for your diary – Mid September 11th & w/c 14th
Dow Megaphone <6000 then again because it's a megaphone – Q4 and higher ….Q4 ??? What more !!
This is how I’m interpreting the range (1 Minute Chart)
6021 – 57 ( S area 6049 – Stp 59)
http://tc.md.it-finance.com/ProRealTime/display_chartimage.phtml?name=vfs31lnystd6wdf1imrus9wli&type=png&purpose=file
Point and figure charts, memory lane there, of a pencil, ruler and graph paper. 🙂
So your short @ 49 is 76.6 fib based only, or reinforced by the proximity to previous high area?
Yes tmpf – I like the Renko charts simply because it’s easier to see Hi/Highs & Hi/Lows & Lo/Highs & Low/Lows and also ranges.
The other chart I use is this one below.
It’s a stripped down version of Ichimoko Clouds – but it’s good for indicating Range Trading – when the the two lines are bumping into each other.
http://tc.md.it-finance.com/ProRealTime/display_chartimage.phtml?name=0lzxuagw4pato24uw2gttseru&type=png&purpose=file
Posting these – as I’m appreciative of any thoughts anyone may have.
Below is a wider version of that Ichimoko Chart
http://tc.md.it-finance.com/ProRealTime/display_chartimage.phtml?name=l2ew671efqgvy8xeiuvpe8fsu&type=png&purpose=file
Good Morgan Stanley being long is a good sign for me
tmfp –
You may be interested ref. that short RSI Trading idea – I’ve trimmed the stops & limited profit so it’s 3/1 (2S/6P) and have set it up to auto on a demo a/c. So far since 7:00 this morning it’s done 24 Points. Going to let it run for a bit…
1:3 is good, maybe you could auto adjust the extension to trading points i.e. 3S/9P etc. using VIX, to match it to prevailing volatility?
Issue with IT Fin. is that you can’t reference another instrument which is a shame…I think it can use the ADX, but I’m not going to try now – later perhaps.
Promised myself I’d try not to get drawn in today !
Got a Re- draw on the PRT Lines
6043-6021 – Major 6016
So the trade is break of 6040 S Tgt 6021 – as I’m interpreting it.
http://tc.md.it-finance.com/ProRealTime/display_chartimage.phtml?name=gn0dosx3oegbj53gfqpj5if7b&type=png&purpose=file
Time for a little short at 65
Hmmm had a feeling that 65 wouldn’t hold for very long, but the benefit of a good rsi entry, out for nothing.
Try again at 82 for a quick turn 10 either way
DAX is driving this
Out for 12 and looking for a long around 65/68
Bit higher for a Trio
http://tc.md.it-finance.com/ProRealTime/display_chartimage.phtml?name=d73w06xafltnuoslcd6pwlxjw&type=png&purpose=file
Fraction Higher for the Trio
http://tc.md.it-finance.com/ProRealTime/display_chartimage.phtml?name=d73w06xafltnuoslcd6pwlxjw&type=png&purpose=file
Fraction Higher for the Trio
PRT Re-Draw
The Line levels are on the right hand side of the chart.
http://tc.md.it-finance.com/ProRealTime/display_chartimage.phtml?name=ethmch57dolmxny3tj19jwxvv&type=png&purpose=file
PRT Line Now Turned Red 6071 Tgt 6052
Printed 52 – next line 6044.3 on a break of 6050.3
It’s trading the breakout from 6060 from what I can see.
6089 would seem a good place for Stops with a Short.
Can wait for the RSI 31 but maybe it will never happen.
I have
1 + 1 + 1 Short Sigs
+ RSI 6 Indicating Higher (19)
No wonder trading gets confusing!
Easy to get lost in the woods with tmi.
Got my 66 long, 10 point stop
Early bearishness has been satiated, I think a low volume bit of up from the DOW will be in order later, especially without the Yellow Peril threat for the rest of the week.
Taken 10 while typing lol, looking to replace on a revisit to 60’s
And back long at 61 8 pt stop
Change of plan, I’ve added at 52, stop on all to 46 would like to see a bit more life in the DAX though
Got 1 Long Sig
Need a break above 61 area for more…
Normally gets dull at this time of day for an hour.
tmfp was that the 11:34 (1 min) ? 66 L
Can see why …
Just waiting to see if we get a print of 52 ref…the PRT sig
Ca- Ching 52
Taken half that long out at 77, getting a bit overbought, low lunchtime volume probably
Looking to replace around 60
Got a bit of a pennant shaping up for resolution by 14.00, 6068 either way.
Still lightly long and lightly bullish, current stop at 57 (for a bit of variety)
Minor undershoot on US jobs responsible for that 12 pt dip I think.
Recovered well, nothing broken.
Also Brazil bad industrial output stats, -1.5% mom.
The emerging markets are really under the cosh, trapped between expensive borrowed dollars and shrinking exports.
Well that’s the top of the pennant broken, now 77 needs to go, then an attempt at 90 would seem in order.
Would like to see DAX through 10060 then we can fly a bit with a good DOW opening.
Taken the rest out at 6104, very nice too, looking to buy a dip back, quite overbought here
Missed pullback again 🙁
Still, nice little bull run that, don’t know how much it has left in it.
Good set up for a q.Short here 85/86
Oouch !
6118 …perhaps ….??
That’s a relief — eyeing 6200 now. 😀
Hi Jim, I was just eyeing the fib 6245/5981 50% trace = about here.
🙂
… … but daily views still scare me! Will take some clawing back.
6182 PRT Tgt
A short at 6124 15 pt stop, this is all a bit overdone for me now.
stopped out and back in again short @ 40
and more at 58
There’s a lot of silly HFT stuff going on, like yesterday’s opening and that nonsense to 66 just now.
Out of all at 30, let’s see some dust settling
Good play tmfp – lovin’ it when you get your heels stuck in !
Have a look at that divergence on the 1 second chart …always easier to see after the event..
PRT Line Update.
This move started when it broke 6060 @ about 1:30 pm
http://tc.md.it-finance.com/ProRealTime/display_chartimage.phtml?name=xvi2e6n44oodj5ac6fh5nqq4w&type=png&purpose=file
Think …many of my charts will turn negative on a break below 6115 – 6120
Yes, I have that as an important support, got a little long at 19, 12 pt stop.
Bit hairy innit? 🙂
took 14 don’t like it that much, especially DAX
My Auto RSI is ticking away – I’ll let you know what the result is later !
A little long at 02 10 either way
straight out
That’s just about enough for today for me, just guessing now, need another holiday
🙂
one last long at 80 10 either way
took 15
Thats deffo my lot today
thanks tmfp – followed 3 of yours today for 40 points
Good for you mate 🙂
I thought I was talking to an echo chamber (no offence Hugh)
gutted I missed that 6150 entry – could have kept that for a while. Bit of weakness into the close?
Do you want to know how the auto trade has gone ?
Guess in point terms (not value)…
what would you consider good ?
Sure. Any + number would be good.
Go on, astound us.
🙂
20 pints would be good! 😀
So far the grand total is………
……..wait for it …………….wait for itttt….
……………41 pints !!!
Reach for the sky – push the ceiling ….!!
59 Trades since 7 am
Long 28.12% winning trades
Short 40.74 % winning trades
Very well done Hugh!
That’s cool. 🙂
Does that mean 71% of longs stopped out and 59% of shorts?
Would be good to run simultaneous 2:1 and 1:1 S/L and compare them.
exhausted!
I’ll try to go through it all later.
It was 33% successful.
The figures have changed a little as it’s put a few more through.
I thought it was pretty good as well.
The thing is, with a 2 point stop – it obviously puts a few trades in that get blown out so maintaining the 3/1 is fair. If this was reduced to less I think there wouldn’t be any lift to it.
No I meant increasing the stop, run it at e.g. 5L/5P, 2 could be too close, half of it goes on spread
Oh I see …I’ll have a look later or over next couple of days.
May as well stay for the Mad half Hour, a small long at 70, 8 pt stop
b/e stop now, looking for 90ish more if DOW gets 180+
Nice one tmfp. 😀
Making hard work of it 91 will do for me, probably more to come
Conversely, if this fails again short at 88 5 point stop doubt if anyone’s chasing a 0.8 divi
70 on bell?
Got that wrong methinks out of short for nowt
Or 100 😀
Yeah probably Jim 🙂
I don’t like it in the MHH when it makes several attempts at a level, usually means that will hold.
This +10 in the last 5 minutes is a mystery, no divi, looks like driven by DOW so might be swaps.
Needs a short between 6105/10, buy it back in 20 mins for +15 I reckon. But not for me, I’ve had enough today. Again.
🙂
Make that 4 minutes 😉
Not very happy with FTSE 2hrs — could be looking at 5800 in no time. 🙁
Left-click on link:
http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p736/jmca01/FTSE%20100%20DFB_zpsrqy94mpf.png
How do you read that from that then Jim?
How do you see that from that then Jim?
Total Pints Now = 55
Think I’ll close the Auto Trade at 4:30 & Start it again between 7 -8 tomorrow.
Good idea, although I’d probably wait till 0830, purely random whether a small stop survives the volatility before then.
Guess it cuts both ways…
Interesting day today
Think I’ve made some headway with things I’d like to achieve.
Close on the AT was 59.
Got to go – Need to get some work done !
tmfp — Fast ROC has peaked and slow ROC is already negative, so a further fall possible — the whole thing could go bear shaped!
Hi Hugh,
What platform are you using for your auto trades? Can’t see that option on mine.
And what are your criteria if you don’t mind me asking. Your RSI trio has served me well the last few weeks.
Cheers mate
Bit pushed for time but try these..
Try these:
https://www.prorealtime.com/en/help-manual/create-trading-systems
https://www.prorealtime.com/en/pdf/probacktest.pdf?c1430290791c
The price is unable to complete a simple reverse h&s pattern on the 5 min.do you really think there are enough bulls around to complete the same pattern on a 4 hr chart!
All positions Closed. I think I need a break!